Welcome to the Coxswain's Grot - Issue 53.
Fellow Submariners, welcome to another edition of the Grot. My testicles are now back in place after SUBCON and firing on both.
ALL ROUND LOOK
| Submarine News |
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| The two Centre Alliance senators South Australia front and Centre |
| The Advertiser (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 28 June 2019 |
| In Adelaide’s East End a silver-haired, middle-aged man sits by himself, quietly enjoying a meal, thumbing through... |
| on several Oberon-class submarines before being selected and posted as a member of the trials crew of the first Collins-class at Osborne. |
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| Developing Australia’s at-sea deterrence force: Sub hunter-killer groups |
| Defence Connect - 28 June 2019 |
| Silently hunting below the waves, the vessels are increasingly lethal and difficult to detect – submarines are one of the great tactical... |
| for the nation's existing Collins Class submarines in the short-to-medium term and the future submarine force of the future. Australia is |
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| Taking a Closer Look at Japan's Futuristic Attack Submarine |
| Yahoo! News - 26 June 2019 |
| From Popular Mechanics Japan has unveiled what is very likely the design for its next-generation attack submarine. The 29SS submarines... |
| consists of six bow-mounted 533-millimeter torpedo tubes. The submarine can carry up to thirty torpedo-launched weapons, a mixture of the |
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| Submarines: South Korean Learning Curve |
| StrategyPage - 7 July 2019 |
| In June 2019 South Korea completed another refurbishment for the Na Daeyong, one of its nine German Type 209 subs. The work on this one... |
| Ion type batteries that were designed for submarine use. All Chang Bogos are believed now able to use the torpedo-tube launched Harpoon anti |
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| 51 Years Ago, a Navy Nuclear Submarine Sank (And We Don't Know Why) |
| The National Interest - 6 July 2019 |
| The Navy Board of Inquiry’s final report suggested several possible reasons for the loss, but nearly all involved equipment failure, not... |
| The depth of the water was 11,000 feet, far deeper than any military submarine could survive. “How the hell are we going to find these poor |
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| What Can Malaysia Do With 2 Submarines? |
| The Diplomat Magazine - 6 July 2019 |
| Points to ponder for Malaysia’s first Defense White Paper. |
| far above the weight of torpedoes launched. The sinking of an Indian frigate, the INS Khukri by a Pakistani submarine, the PNS Hangor, in |
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| Stealth Suprise: Is Japan's New Submarine a Game Changer? |
| The National Interest - 6 July 2019 |
| In June 2019, submarine manufacturer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries hosted a presentation (subsequently shared on Twitter) revealing plans for... |
| to increase its submarine fleet to twenty-two operational diesel and AIP-powered submarines, plus one testing and two training submarines. |
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| Royal Navy and Princess celebrate 50 years of Trident |
| DevonLive.com - 6 July 2019 |
| HM Naval Base Clyde hosts evmnt to mark Continuous At Sea Deterrent (CASD) milestone |
| a vital mission which will be continued far into the future by the Dreadnought class of ballistic submarines which will also be ported at HM |
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| Fire-hit Russian sub to go back to work |
| The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 6 July 2019 |
| The nuclear reactor on one of the Russian navy’s research submersibles was not damaged in a fire that killed 14... |
| system was accidentally initiated. In Russia’s worst submarine disaster, the Kursk nuclear submarine suffered an explosion and sank during |
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| Imperfect protection |
| The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 6 July 2019 |
| Hugh White has spent the better part of his career specialising in Australia’s defence policy and military force... |
| three dozen long-range submarines, while drastically cutting back its surface ships and its army and perhaps acquiring nuclear weapons, is |
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| Last Post, July 6 |
| The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 6 July 2019 |
| Alice Workman hit every nail on the head when she mused about the return to parliament of our federal MPs (“Kids... |
| the technology. Without a nuclear industry we could not have the technicians available to enable us to run nuclear submarines, for example. |
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| This is what motivates the 'coalition of the reasonable' |
| Financial Review (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 5 July 2019 |
| The powerbroking trio on the Senate crossbench flexed their muscle this week and there's plenty more special... |
| as construction of the new submarine ramps up will put the squeeze on Adelaide's ability to service the Collins submarines over the medium |
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| Head to Head: Could Iranian Submarines Imperil the U.S. Navy? |
| The National Interest - 5 July 2019 |
| Though the new Iranian boats may remain far from the cutting edge of submarine design, they could still prove dangerous adversaries in the... |
| mini-submarine operations, with interference from rocky shallows and loud surf reducing sonar detection ranges and giving mini submarines |
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| Not quite Custer's last stand, yet |
| The Canberra Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 5 July 2019 |
| Hugh White is travelling the nation's highways and byways trying to scare Australians out of their complacency... |
| he thinks, have a much bigger submarine fleet if we scrapped the $50 billion French order and built updated Collins Class subs - perhaps 24, |
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| Russian submarine that caught fire was nuclear powered |
| 9News - 5 July 2019 |
| File photograph of a Decommissioned Russian nuclear submarines in the base of Severomorsk. Fourteen sailors were killed after a fire broke... |
| File photograph of a Decommissioned Russian nuclear submarines in the base of Severomorsk. Fourteen sailors were killed after a fire broke |
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| Hugh White’s plan for defending Australia simply isn’t viable |
| The Strategist - 4 July 2019 |
| How to defend Australia sets out four strategic objectives for Australian forces: defending the continent, securing the neighbourhood,... |
| Pacific. The showcase item would be 24 new submarines more like an evolved Collins class than the Attack class now being designed by |
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| Future-proofing the Attack class (part 2): performance and capacity |
| The Strategist - 4 July 2019 |
| In part 1 , we discussed how we ensure we get the right propulsion system for Australia’s Attack-class submarines. We argued that nuclear... |
| in a position to manufacture and sustain light-metal submarine batteries for the foreseeable future. Note: Graph by David Glynne Jones is |
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| Israel’s Navy Looking To Modernize Its Submarine Fleet |
| SouthFront - 4 July 2019 |
| Israeli outlets Ynet and Yedioth Ahronoth published an interview with Rear Adm. Yossi Ashkenazi, head of the Israeli Navy’s Materiel... |
| modern systems on it, i.e. will not contribute to the survival of the submarine and its successful actions in case of a war scenario. For |
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| Kremlin Says Details of Sub Fire Cannot Be Made Public |
| Herald Globe - 3 July 2019 |
| MOSCOW - The Kremlin on Wednesday said details of a fire that killed 14 crew on a deep-water submersible will not be made public because... |
| , with local media reporting the ship was a secretive nuclear-powered mini-submarine. The presence of many senior ranking officers on board |
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| Tony Abbott 'regrets' not finalising submarine deal with Japan |
| ABC News - 3 July 2019 |
| Former prime minister Tony Abbott has spoken of his "regret" his government did not finalise a submarine deal with Tokyo, while praising... |
| original plan to acquire Japan's Soryu class submarines as a replacement for the Navy's ageing Collins Class fleet. "I regret, ambassador, |
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| Fire on Russian navy submersible kills 14 sailors, Defence Ministry says |
| The Sydney Morning Herald (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 3 July 2019 |
| The ministry said that the blaze broke out Monday while the vessel was performing tests in Russia's territorial... |
| when a firefighting system was accidentally initiated while the Nerpa nuclear-powered submarine of Russia's Pacific Fleet was undergoing |
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| With China's swift rise as naval power, Australia needs to rethink how it defends itself |
| Daily Bulletin - 2 July 2019 |
| As China grows more powerful and influential, we’re publishing a series, The New Superpower, looking at what this means for the world – how... |
| and technologies - including radio, radar, aircraft, submarines, sea mines, torpedoes, guided missiles and space-based surveillance - have |
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| Is it time for Australia to have its own nuclear weapons? |
| The Brag - 2 July 2019 |
| It was mentioned by then-PM Robert Menzies back in the ’60s. It’s bubbled its way to the surface of social discourse from time to time... |
| including SLBMs or Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles “It’s made perfect sense for Australia not to contemplate nuclear weapons for the |
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In addition
Frank Owen has posted the following:
The SIA has bought a table to support one of the finalists in the Women in Defence Awards, the winners of which will be announced at a Gala Dinner on Thursday 11 July 2019 at the National Arboretum in Canberra. It turns out that Errika Meades is one of the finalists in the Project Management category.
The finalist in question is Errika Meades who has been a valued member of the Committee for two years now. On her own initiative, she has taken on the role of championing and leading the SIA's support of getting the message about Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths (STEM) to the youth of this country and you would have seen a recent post in social media (if you follow the SIA's Facebook page) about our support of Year 6 students from Trinity Gardens Primary School in Adelaide as they participate in the Subs in Schools program.
One for the Girls:
Subject: Fwd: Why women make better assassins
Whoa!
The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all the background checks, interviews and testing were done, there were three finalists: two men and a woman.For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men to a large metal door and handed him a gun. "We must know that you will follow your instructions no matter what the circumstances. Inside the room you will find your wife sitting in a chair. Kill her."
The man said "You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife".
The agent said, "Then you are not the right man for this job. Take your wife and go home".
The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun and went into the room. All was quiet for about five minutes. The man came out with tears in his eyes, "I tried, but I can't kill my wife."
The agent said, "You don't have what it takes, so take your wife and go home."
Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same instructions to kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots were heard one after another. They heard screaming, crashing, and banging on the walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly and there stood the woman, wiping sweat from her brow.
“The gun was loaded with blanks" she said. "I had to kill him with the chair”
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Jeff Stein thinks: "You need to hire this guy for our Xmas party!!!!"
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QANTAS eat your heart out and for our Birdy changeovers (Yes you Larkin)
Courtesy Mike Bennett
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All Things Collins
Taken from Facebook:
As Petty Officer Maritime Logistics – Support Operations Submarines (POML-SSM) Kerry Cousins prepares to head east for the finals of the Women in Defence Awards for 2019, she has the support and best wishes from all who are fortunate enough to know her.
A highly motivated, inspirational Senior Sailor dedicated to the advancement of the interests of the Submarine Enterprise, Kerry is a pioneer female in the submarine community, continuing to pave the way for other women considering a career in submarines.
Kerry is an exceptional mentor, having significantly influenced hundreds of trainee submariners in recent times and directly impacting Submarine Workforce Growth. She was awarded a 2019 Australia Day Medallion for her efforts.
Kerry is a fantastic example of the unique and essential contribution women make to the Defence Force and epitomises the image of the model Senior Sailor.
We all wish Kerry the best at the Women in Defence Gala Event being held in Canberra on 11 July.
Leading Seaman Josh Day (HMAS Sheean) made his appearance on Australian Ninja Warrior Monday 8 July. have a look at how he went. Congratulations Josh, You did us all proud!
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Here is Joshua Day's complete run on the Australian Ninja Warrior course.
One of our own - HMAS Sheenan crew member Joshua Day - reveals how he trains in a Navy submarine
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Joshua Day reveals how he trains in a Navy submarine
The marine technician showcases how his unique training location.
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AROUND THE TRAPS
Jeff Stein forwarded something to ponder:
OUR FLAG
Our flag wears the stars that blaze at night,
In our Southern skies of blue,
And a little old flag in the corner,
That`s part of our heritage too.
It`s for the English, the Scots and the Irish,
Who were sent to the ends of the earth,
The rogues and schemers, the doers and dreamers,
Who gave modern Australia its birth.
And you, who are shouting to change it,
You don`t seem to understand,
It`s the flag of our laws and our language,
Not the flag of a faraway land.
Though there are plenty of people who`ll tell you,
How when Europe was plunged into night,
That little old flag in the corner,
Was their symbol of freedom and light.
It doesn`t mean we owe allegiance,
To a forgotten imperial dream,
We`ve the stars to show where we`re going,
And old flag to show where we`ve been.
It`s only an old piece of bunting,
It`s only an old piece of rag,
But there are thousands who`ve died for its honour,
And shed of their blood for OUR FLAG.
Sid Czabotar forward the following after the ISC 56 Report:
(Tim please insert Sids report)
Explaining Pregnancy to a Child
How to explain about pregnancy to a child of the 21st century,
when bees, flowers, seeds, stork are out of fashion?
Today, the explanation is modern...
The son asks his father: - Dad, how was I born?
Well, my son, one day we knew we would talk about it,
so I'll explain what you need to know:
One day, Mom and Dad connected to facebook and became friends.
Dad sent a tweet inviting Mum to go to a cybercafé.
We found that we had many links and likes in common
and we understood each other very well.
When we were not on the laptop,
we would talk on Whats App and Skype.
And we were giving more likes, until one day we decided to share our files.
Dad introduced his USB stick to Mum's USB port.
When the files were downloaded,
we realised that we had forgotten the security software
and that we had no firewall or snapshot filter.
It was too late to cancel the download and
it was impossible to delete the files,
generating the message
"INSTALLATION SUCCESSFUL".
How many ‘Boats’ have these ‘wannabe’s lost, the mind boggles!!!
I thought you would be interested in this story I found on MSN: Radiation Levels of Sunken Russian Nuclear Submarine 100,000 Times Higher Than Normal http://a.msn.com/01/en-au/AAE96vi?ocid=se
Next
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-03/russia-submarine-fire-kills-14-losharik-nuclear-vladimir-putin/11273188
The Russian Defence
Ministry says 14 sailors have been killed in a fire on a navy submersible, with media reporting the stricken vessel is the country's most secret mini-submarine.
When one is hurt we all feel the pain – Buddies in Boats
Explaining Pregnancy to a Child
How to explain about pregnancy to a child of the 21st century,
when bees, flowers, seeds, stork are out of fashion?
Today, the explanation is modern...
The son asks his father: - Dad, how was I born?
Well, my son, one day we knew we would talk about it,
so I'll explain what you need to know:
One day, Mom and Dad connected to facebook and became friends.
Dad sent a tweet inviting Mum to go to a cybercafé.
We found that we had many links and likes in common
and we understood each other very well.
When we were not on the laptop,
we would talk on Whats App and Skype.
And we were giving more likes, until one day we decided to share our files.
Dad introduced his USB stick to Mum's USB port.
When the files were downloaded,
we realised that we had forgotten the security software
and that we had no firewall or snapshot filter.
It was too late to cancel the download and
it was impossible to delete the files,
generating the message
"INSTALLATION SUCCESSFUL".
How many ‘Boats’ have these ‘wannabe’s lost, the mind boggles!!!
I thought you would be interested in this story I found on MSN: Radiation Levels of Sunken Russian Nuclear Submarine 100,000 Times Higher Than Normal http://a.msn.com/01/en-au/AAE96vi?ocid=se
Next
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-03/russia-submarine-fire-kills-14-losharik-nuclear-vladimir-putin/11273188
The Russian Defence
Ministry says 14 sailors have been killed in a fire on a navy submersible, with media reporting the stricken vessel is the country's most secret mini-submarine.
When one is hurt we all feel the pain – Buddies in Boats
Mike
From Peter Reid:
Subject: Handyman Cartoons
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An elderly couple reaching their 70s are about to get married, but before they say their vows, the woman wanted to talk.
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She said: "I want to keep my house."
He said: "That's fine with me."
She said: "I want to keep my Car."
He said: "That's fine with me."
She said: "And I want to have sex 6 times a week."
He said: "Put me down for Fridays."
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Very chauvinistic!!!!!!!!!!!
An old hillbilly farmer had a wife who nagged him without mercy. From morning 'til night (and sometimes later), she was always complaining about something.
The only time he got any relief was when he was out plowing with his old mule. He tried to plow a lot.
One day, when he was out plowing, his wife brought him lunch in the field. He drove the old mule into the shade, sat down on a stump, and began to eat his lunch.
Immediately, his wife began pestering him. Complain, nag, nag, it just went on and on.
All of a sudden, the old mule lashed out with both hind feet; caught her smack in the back of the head and killed her dead on the spot.
At the funeral several days later, the minister noticed something rather odd. When a woman mourner would approach the old farmer, he would listen for a minute, then nod his head in agreement; but when a man mourner approached him, he would listen for a minute, then shake his head in disagreement.
This was so consistent, the minister decided to ask the old farmer about it. So after the funeral, the minister spoke to the old farmer, and asked him why he nodded his head and agreed with the women, but always shook his head and disagreed with all the men.
The old farmer said,
Well, the women would come up and say something about
how nice my wife looked, or how pretty her dress was, so I'd nod my head in agreement.
And what about the men? the minister asked.
They wanted to know if the mule was for sale.
DVA MATTERS
Received from John Polglaze in with conjunction with Ray Kemp OAM
No. 6,
Hi. As you may recall, Ray Kemp and I ran a survey to gather data on the experience of sinus barotraumas by Australian submariners as a precursor to getting better recognition of this condition by DVA. Unfortunately, we have not had any success with this, so we should like to communicate this to the wider SM community, while also thanking all those who contributed to the survey. Accordingly, I have crafted a few words (below) that I ask you include in your next edition of Up Periscope
Cheers,
John
It is with deep disappointment that we must report that our submission to the DVA to have the common incidence of sinus barotrauma recognised as a standard affliction for submariners was unsuccessful. In a display of somewhat tortured logic, the proposition was rejected essentially on the basis that because there were no medical records available then the Department could not determine whether or not we submariners actually experienced sinus barotrauma – the whole basis of our submission was exactly because there were no medical records! Furthermore, even if we had experienced sinus barotrauma and DVA conceded this, DVA advised that it would not amount to anything because we would also need medical records, typically generated within 48 hours of sinus barotrauma onset, to satisfy the Department that other afflictions resulting from sinus barotrauma were related to service. The underlying fact that the Commonwealth provided no means for a submariner to have any medical diagnoses undertaken or medical records generated at sea was seemingly lost on DVA, which is a convenient outcome for DVA but not for submariners.
In a small concession, DVA advised that:
….. one of the possible avenues now being considered for future expansion of the streamlined/straight through processing policy approach to claims determination is whether it is possible to streamline conditions based on the nature of a member’s ADF employment. Should such an approach prove viable, it is likely that sinus barotrauma and otitic barotrauma would be the type of condition which, due to the nature of their service, would be commonly encountered among submariners. Consequently, these conditions will be examined for inclusion in a future expansion of straight through processing along employment category lines. At present, there is no timeframe for the completion of this investigation, but I appreciate your raising these as examples of conditions which may have an elevated incidence among submariners due to their unique service environment.
So, we are left in the position now of ‘it might happen’ but if so ‘who knows when’. Cold comfort, but there is the prospect of a faint glimmer of hope at the end of a tunnel of indeterminate length.
Thank you very much to all who participated in the survey and submitted responses to the questionnaire. Of the 160+ submissions, over 95% reported having experienced sinus barotrauma while serving at sea as an Australian submariner. Furthermore, we had some very detailed inputs from former Chief Coxn’s providing information on how often they – as the RAN’s official ‘medical staff’ onboard – regularly encountered and treated sinus barotrauma and the lack of any individual medical records being generated of such treatments. None of this was apparently sufficient for DVA, who one can only conclude consider that an SM must be like a major warrie on a major deployment, with a Medical Officer embarked and a Sickbay full of medics on hand and tripping over themselves in their fervour to record every health and medical malady experienced by the crew members!
We’ll keep trying. Thanks, Polly and Ray.
Authors Note: I will throw my 2 Bob’s worth in Coxswains Rant.
Hi 6
The final productivity commission review report into DVA is out. There are 3 documents links are below. I will have comments for next log.
https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/completed/veterans/report/veterans-overview.pdf
https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/completed/veterans/report/veterans-volume1.pdf
https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/completed/veterans/report/veterans-volume2.pdf
Regards
Ray Kemp OAM JP
Level 3 ATDP Advocate
FROM THE RECTORY
Predominately for all our Crow Eaters and those visiting Adelaide, Father Keith (Frank) Dalby will be consecrated (not casterated) at St Peters Cathedral North Adelaide on Friday 16 August.
FUNNIES
This should do the trick – In the shit wise!
Board of Directors Meeting......
All the members of the company's Board of Directors were called into the Chairman's office, one after another, until only Ted, the junior member, was left sitting outside.
Finally it was his turn to be summoned.
Ted entered the office to find the Chairman and the other four Directors seated at the far end of the boardroom table.
Ted was instructed to stand at the other end of the table, which he did.
The Chairman looked Ted squarely in the eye, and with a stern voice, he asked:
"Have you ever had sex with my secretary, Miss Floyd?"
"Oh, no, sir, positively not...!" Ted replied.
"Are you absolutely sure...?" asked the chairman.
"Honest, I've never been close enough to even touch her...!"
"You'd swear to that...?"
"Yes, I swear I've never had sex with Miss Floyd, anytime, anywhere…" insisted Ted.
"Good, Then YOU fire her."
Another one from John Culnane
Some silly “Skimmer” sent me this, bloody hero!!! When we wise people know that happiness is 400 feet in any roughers…JJJ JC
It is not often I put out correspondence like this, but believe it rates a mention.
Dear shipmates and friends of the RNA,
It is my sad duty to report I have just spoken to Shipmate Margaret Attwood (Bert’s Daughter-in-Law) and she informed me that that our esteemed Shipmate, Past Branch Chairman and All Round Bloody Great Oppo Albert (Bert) Attwood sailed on his final journey at approximately 0400 Sunday 7th June 2019, quietly whilst he was asleep, a patient of Box Hill Hospital.
Bert was one of our D Day Veterans, a recipient of the Frances Highest Order ‘The Legion of Honour’ - The Legion of Honour (French: Légion d'honneur, is the highest French order of merit for military and civil merits, established in 1802 by Napoleon Bonaparte and retained by all later French governments and regimes.
Bert served with distinction in the Royal Navy during the second World War as a member of the Fleet Air Arm, including seeing service on HMS Victorious, the aircraft carrier that launch the aircraft which detected and crippled the Battleship Bismark.
I visited Bert last Thursday; he was fully conscious and in full control of his faculties, he enjoyed reading his copy of Port Phillip Papers, and the sippers of the Lambs Navy Rum in a cup of coffee – That twinkle was still in his eye and he was ‘on form’ joking with me.
Per Bert’s wishes, and as confirmed by Margaret Attwood, there will not be a funeral. There will be a private cremation and Bert’s ashes will be later committed to eternity.
I have asked Margaret’s permission to include a tribute in a forthcoming copy of the Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper from the RNA, to which she agreed.
Farewell Bert, our dear friend and shipmate, may your final journey be on calm waters as you sail onto your final patrol.
‘Lest We Forget’
Mike B
COXSWAINS RANT
I am not one to touch too much on politics but the information received from John Polglaze through Ray Kemp really pissed me off. A lot of time and effort went into putting their submission together and to get it knocked on the head sends sparks from my arse. Surly this is an indictment ie, illustrates that the situation is bad (the DVA System still has a lot of work to do), given all the correspondence received regularly, is not entirely correct (DVA streamlining their system to make it easier) is a crock of shit!
As one who knows, seen some horrific occurrences in my 23 years on boats and have fought DVA (with the help of our own Ray Kemp) to achieve a positive result (2 and a half years down the track).
It is my opinion only, that Defence need to appoint a dedicated Liaison Officer who has direct contact with DVA and has access to the old NPEMS system along with PM Keys. That link could and would solve significant issues that frustrate many Veterans applying for Pensions. She/He can cross reference all archive data and forward to the Member/ex Member and be the one and only POC. Having said that and in a perfect world, it would expedite processes and would save our members going around in ever diminishing circles and still disappearing up our central orifice.
Finally
To end on a high
 
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Shut and Clipped for this week
Yours Aye
Greg Jones #6
coxswain@submarinesaustralia.com
0432 559 283
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