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Never Not Even When Cast In Eternal Circumstances
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Hi Andrew, 

Apologies for the much delayed email. I'm guessing you must be very busy at Bard as well. I hope all is well. 

Something I have been thinking and talking to people lately is a renewed interest in the diaspora toward nativism/provinciality/self-essentializing. I was thinking about the difference between tokenizing something versus creating the lore around something. The difference seems to be that one mode gives life to something whereas the other renders it an artifact. I was reading about the Frankfurt School distinguishing itself from traditional philosophy by situating the present in its particular social condition rather than searching for universal, abstract, eternal truth. So they tend to the "many complex sides" of the concrete as opposed to the one-sided abstraction, hence the writing becomes a mix of the theoretical, metaphorical and fantastic. That kind of speaks to what art is capable of doing, not more or less. I talked to X about the various social movements dedicated to dismantling institutions. At the same time a lot of art and discourse are created in harmony with institutional agendas. In my experience writing for an art publication, it seems that an adversarial position in the vein of institutional critique is encouraged. But it felt like preaching to the choir. It also feels like operating on a logic of scarcity by positioning oneself first and foremost as disinherited. X said something like we can create tables rather than fight for more seats at the table.I think there's an ease in how you're trying to (dis)engage with legibility and over-explanation (an ease instead of say, a begrudged withdrawal) and we should explore that ease more. 

More soon,



 

Hey Michelle,

This response, while overdue is not any less urgent. Because of the delay - I have had that much more time to formulate a response and I hope that it would restart this dialogue.

I really like the differentiation between what is tokenized through a type of transparency, a type of knowability and how you described "creating the lores around something." I think much of what identity formation is, in the west, is the enterprise of getting to some center to create a whole. Which I think is one way to do it. But this way of thinking demonstrates some of the trappings of western binaries. For example the Cartesian "mind / body split" or how in the bible it is assumed that we are born in and with original sin. Because of this absence of "holiness" we must be filled with something that is outside of us, i.e. God, Holy Spirit, Jesus, Capitalism, etc. To use your phrase "creating the lore around something" is to think about and to make contingent all of the small and large things that create the constellation of the image of a person. And I think this is important.
 


 

Which has me thinking about how you create an image of a thing, Achilles Mbembe's "planetary archive", Whitman's "the self" as containing multitudes, Trinh T. Min Ha's description of her process of creating a work as being an abode, that you build, ultimately to give away and also Mallarme's "Un Coup de Des". "Un Coup de Des" I think is poignant to this conversation because when we're talking about creating the lores around something - this text creates its image within the gaps and absences. So this has me thinking about gaps, omissions and the distance between things and how maybe for those living far from home, living in exile or displaced - the distance, the gap and the space between things has a different type of charge that is both an absence and at the same time a presence.

I am really happy that you mention the subtleties between legibility and opacity and the position one is making or not making when one decides to refuse legibility. In my work, I think I am always beginning from the position of someone who is already outside, already unknown, even to myself. So that ease you are sensing might be simply because I believe it to be hard to know oneself to begin with.

Michelle!

I can't stop thinking about that Yemeni coffee, how they recreated a photo at the cafe, and also our conversations about the specific in the general.

Here's a more accurate representation of that Mallarme poem.

Hi Andrew, 

I feel like a major theme of what we're discussing has been orbiting around image making. What is an image, the indexical power of images that is reinforced by representational/identity politics, the (in)accuracy of said representation, knowability and vision etc etc. 

When I was doing research on mammoths I learned that the founding father of zoology as a discipline was Georges Cuvier, who established extinction as a scientific fact. He proved this discovery by comparing mammoth fossils and the anatomy of living elephants to illustrate that they are fundamentally different species, hence inferring that mammoths as a species were at some point wiped out completely and catastrophically. While this scientific discovery relied on fossils as some sort of image evidence, prehistoric fossils, which are considered first images, didn't intend for an audience originally. This made me think about how images can be used for unintended purposes, and opposingly, whether some truths or evidence-making can be unhinged from images and its metaphors--enlightenment, illumination, etc. Artist Pallavi Paul had mentioned LIGO (The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory), which is designed to directly detect gravitational waves, as an example of scientific phenomena that doesn't rely on vision. 

(Side note: Cuvier would perpetuate colonial and racist practices of exhibiting slaves and indigenous people in freak shows in the name of science and pedagogy.) 

Which brings me to another thing that we talked about which is music and sound, which, unlike light, requires a material medium in order to travel. You also explained to me once how feedback works, which is an articulation of the distance between two things, rather than the sound that the microphone makes itself. So there's something fundamentally material and contingent about sound, perhaps fitting with both of our penchant toward collaboration. 

I think we are both interested in what constitutes or challenges authenticity. The story about the missing axehead is a folklore about honesty that is itself dubious by way of circulation. I too think about the re-staging of the photograph in the Yemeni cafe repeatedly. What's at stake is definitely not the accuracy of the re-presentation but more like activating the medium, i.e. time passed in between the two images. I'm excited to think about incorporating that experience into our project somehow. 

Happy holidays! 

Michelle,

Something about your email had me recalling this quote from Joan Didion:

“I write entirely to find out what I'm thinking, what I'm looking at, what I see and what it means. What I want and what I fear.”

Something I think that is happening with our conversations as you described is exactly that - an image is being produced. We both understand that image production, in all its forms, does not always correlate intention and reception. That is part of the struggle of what you also mentioned - which is - the power of images to both (mis)represent and how that can produce (mis)recognition.

Your research of mammoth fossils, Georges Cuvier, Pallavi Paul and LIGO has me thinking about origins and how our understanding of the present, how it is entangled/embodied, and how all of it is also contingent on our past. The idea of origins has significantly different registers when speaking on scientific, biological or even etymological terms. But if we are talking about origins as it relates to some notion of the authentic (as it relates to identity formation); I think this idea becomes troubled for those living in a diasporic situation, the exiled and the displaced. And I think another way of articulating this condition is another thing we are speaking about which is - the distance between two things.  

So I think there are really one of two ways to go with this disadvantaged distance between yourself and that location of the authentic: you can look/listen toward the lost elements of your story, history, language, culture or you can move away and look/listen elsewhere. Both are unknowns in my opinion. There is a bootlegged talk by Trinh T Min Ha that was forwarded to me by artist/writer/educator Sreshta Rit Premnath where she speaks about the relationship of being "politically marked" artist/writer and what this means for both the individual and the work. I've transcribed it here for you:

“It is often said that writers of color, including anglophone and franco-phone third world writers of the diaspora, are condemned to write only autobiographical works living in a double exile far from their native land and far from their mother tongue. They are thought to write by memory and to depend to a large extent on hearsay. Directing their look toward a long bygone reality. They supposedly excel in reanimating the ashes of childhood and of the country of origin. The autobiography can here be said to be an abode. In which the writers mention necessarily take refuge. But to preserve this abode they would have to open it up and pass it on. For not every detail of their individual lives bears recounting in such an autobiography. And what they choose to recount no longer belongs to them as individuals. Writing from a representative space that is always politically marked as coloured or as third world they do not so much remember for themselves as they remember in order to tell. And when they open the doors of the abode and step out of it they have in a sense freed themselves again from home. They become a passage.”

-Trinh T Minh Ha

I think this articulates the space in which some of us exist within - which is indeed a real space - the space between two things. At least for me, this is a generative space for thinking about myself and my work.

Andrew Yong Hoon Lee lives and works in NY.
Michelle Song lives and works in NY.

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