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“I really don't like that people are so obsessed with unicorns. It makes you make a lot of bad decisions.” — Maëlle Gavet

As valuations for many start-ups come crashing down, Techstars CEO Maëlle Gavet has criticized the goal of becoming a unicorn company. Instead, she says, businesses should strive to be dragons — resilient enough to withstand difficult times and devotedly loyal to their mission and their customers.

“In the world of business, being a dragon means that you need to be able to resist any challenges, any economic downturn,” Maëlle says in her Rapid Response interview. “When you think about dragons in a business sense, I see entrepreneurs who are very loyal to a problem, very loyal to a customer's needs. They go through battles to solve these problems."

Maëlle has played a central role in growing diverse startups and scale-ups. Now, with Techstars, she’s set her sights on remaking the impact of pre-seed investing globally.

Her distinctive perch gives her uncommon insight into the current state of the innovation economy, and she shares key lessons on how to navigate our devilishly complex economic environment.

“I tell our entrepreneurs: Be very, very clear on your priorities. You can't have more than two or three. You need to be waking up every morning thinking, 'This is what I'm trying to achieve,' and anything that does not help you achieve this goal, you need to be ruthless and say no to them. Then I tell them: No one succeeds alone ever. You need to have people who are ready to be with you in the trenches, whether it is, your team, your investors, your board.”

This week’s featured episode:

Rapid Response: Don’t be a unicorn, be a dragon, w/Techstars CEO Maëlle Gavet

The tech industry and its investors have been captivated by the spell of the Unicorn for too long — and the ambitious goal of a billion-dollar valuation has done more harm than good. Instead, founders should aim to be resilient dragons. That's the view of Maëlle Gavet, who as CEO of early-stage investment business Techstars has unmatched insight into the hopes, dreams, and challenges of thousands of founders. Maëlle also shares her experience as a “Fixer and Scaler” and offers important lessons for all entrepreneurs, from pre-seed start-ups to corporate change agents.

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The Disney news

As you probably heard yesterday, Disney’s legendary CEO, Bob Iger, is returning to the company. In the 15 years that Iger was CEO of Disney, he oversaw jaw-dropping acquisitions: Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, 21st Century Fox. 

Our two-part interview with him highlights his genius at understanding acquisitions and growth at this influential legacy org that spans continents and categories — and carries big expectations.

Listen to part 1 here>>

NEW: Masters of Scale x Spark & Fire episode

In collaboration with our sister podcast, Spark & Fire, which launched its second season on Monday, we released a special episode featuring world-renowned cellist, Yo-Yo Ma, in the Masters of Scale feed. The episode focuses on how to unite a team around a shared mission, and it's filled with surprising insights for creators and business leaders alike. 

Ma tells the story of co-founding The Silk Road Project — a musical collective that brings together musicians from wildly different traditions to write and perform original music – and Reid brings his classic Masters of Scale analysis to the story. It's a must-listen for any business leader who is building something one-of-a-kind from the ground-up.  

Listen to the episode here >>

Four lessons for entrepreneurs from artists

Want to learn more about why creativity is important for business leaders?

Check out Reid's LinkedIn essay about what entrepreneurs can learn from artists — based on Yo-Yo Ma and the Spark & Fire podcast.

Follow Spark & Fire in your podcast player

For more content designed to fuel your creativity and innovation, tune in to the new season of Spark & Fire

The latest episode features genius comedian Patton Oswalt on the creative journey behind two of his most beloved Netflix specials – “Annihilation” and “I Love Everything.” In Patton's story, you'll hear lessons on how to recover your creative voice that are relevant for anyone who's ever tried to bring something new and innovative into the world. 

Follow Spark & Fire here >>

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